ok, story time.. anon asks me via pm:.
just heard from a wallkill bethelite that warwick will finish early.
can you confirm?.
The sooner it's finished, the sooner they can get those Brooklyn properties on the market!
And the sooner it's finished, the sooner they can give the pick slips to those construction workers.
And the sooner it's finished, the sooner the GB can move to their beautiful new toxic waste site.
i saw the coordinator heading for the stage and hit record on my ipad.
i was shocked but here it is.
here's my typed transcript of the letter he read:.
I think that before these layoffs became common, a CO couple would have said that it was their choice to leave the work for health or family reasons. I don't think they would have said they were "fired" from the circuit work if this had happened 20 years go. It would have been personally embarrassing. It would have put the organization in a bad light. So they would have revised the story in order to avoid awkward conversations and questions.
But in this letter, the CO seems genuinely honest about what has happened. As others have noted, although he says things about trusting the org, the tone of the letter puts that trust into question. Since bethelites and special pioneers have been getting pink slips, it wouldn't be that embarrassing to say you've gotten one too.
I also have a gut feeling that he's circulated this letter in hopes that someone in the circuit will be able to help them get settled out in the real world.
well, my sister-in-law and her husband, special pioneers for only a couple of years, just got their letter.. her comment was along the lines of, "they're having to do this because they forgave all those kingdom hall loans a few years ago and the brothers aren't donating anymore.".
when my wife told me, i laughed so hard i farted.
;).
Her comment was along the lines of, "They're having to do this because they forgave all those Kingdom Hall loans a few years ago and the brothers aren't donating anymore."
Who is the "They're" and "they" that she is referring to? Doesn't she mean "Jehovah is" and "he"?
Doesn't she believe that Jehovah is directing Watchtower Corporation and he made the decision to forgive the loans? Isn't this all part of His will and purpose?
Well, my sister-in-law and her husband, special pioneers for only a couple of years, just got their letter.
They've had their couple of years as special pioneers, so what do they have to show for it? Did they meet dozens of interested people while working d2d, study with them, and get them dunked? In a couple of years they should have a new congregation filled with new publishers that they brought into "da troof"!
Or maybe Jehovah didn't see that they were fruitful branches, so he lopped them off.
last night our congregation read a letter for the global assistance arrangement combined with the traveling overseer assistance arrangement.
the "recommended" amount was $15 per publisher, which was well over $1000 for our hall.. it seemed steep.
our congregation does not have this type of money.
An elder, a CO, and a GB member were talking about how they decide to allocate their funds.
When asked, the elder explained that he and his wife take their whole income in $5 bills. They draw a circle on the floor. They throw all the money up in the air and whatever falls inside the circle is donated to the congregation and WWW.
The CO says that he and his wife do very similar with their reimbursements and green handshakes in $5 bills. They draw a circle on the floor. They throw all the money up in the air. But it's what falls outside the circle that gets donated to the society.
The GB member explained that the Governing Body does something very, very similar to these brothers. But they take the society's income in $100 bills. They also draw a circle on the floor. Then they throw all the money up in the air. And whatever Jehovah catches, he can keep!
some fascinating results in the latest pew research.
(how did i miss this before?
) including that jws rely on their religion the most of any group to tell right from wrong and rely on common sense the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i09wzqof4zi.
ha!
that is supposed to make people go back?!
Only clicked through to catch some scenes. Watching too much would have a laxative effect on me.
Caught this line late in the video about how the other bethel heavies will be trotted out to read the teleprompter on the boredcast:
"We are sure you will enjoy this new arrangement."
More like, "We are going to tell you the only way you are allowed to feel. You will unquestioningly pretend to enjoy whatever rubbish we keep putting out for you."
since the liberal government has been elected in canada, it seems that people are looking to the future with a little more optimism and hope.
it is only human nature that with change, we would think that the change would be for the better.
the courts have ruled, in canada, that it is unconstitutional to deny the homeless the right to sleep in parks.
the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
The writers that come up with this stuff live in the isolated world of bethel. When living in a like-minded hive of WT drones, disfellowshipping sounds fine.
But out in the real world where ordinary JWs have to work with and live around nonJWs, the disfellowshipping practice screams "cult!"
The situation described in this article would easily be surrounded by nonJW family members, neighbors, friends, acquaintances, and onlookers. Although WT can issue the command that nobody ask any questions about the judicial meeting and that nobody talk to the dfd, that certainly doesn't apply to all those nonJWs. And when the mother in this WT story recounts what has transpired and shows what the daughter wrote in the letter to any nonJW, what are they going to think? "What a bitch of a daughter in a stupid church. Poor mother."
I've talked to fellow students, coworkers, and my therapist about this JC and df practice. Of course they find it disgusting and lose any respect for JWs that they previously had. So the GB can keep ordering the sheeple to preach, but I know plenty of people that will never listen because they are aware of this unloving practice of this captive cult.
Naked, wet, and rubbing your entire body with slippery soap--these are all the tools of Satan the Devil!
Baptism is the only contact with water that true Christians need. It's the example that Jesus set. He got wet all over when he was baptized. Other than that there was hand and feet washing, but nothing in between. Later the bible records in detail that he used his superpowers to avoid contact with water by walking over top of the water instead of getting wet by swimming.
now that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.
who would have ever thought?.
yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?
the org. doesn't have to pay anything for them.
And the org gets what they pay for.
I suppose they create some extra hype in congregations and some may get others to go in service more.
I knew plenty of pioneers that created hype and took bragging rights about their position, yet they had no "progressive" bible studies and rarely went out with the "average" publishers on the weekend. Their specialty was finding studies in the local jail and driving around during weekdays counting their time.
Do RPs donate financially much to the org?
Most that I knew didn't have much to donate financially and considered their time preaching as their donation.
